As much as they don't like Harper, are they willing to risk Jack Layton being the one to fuel the economic engines of Canada?
As much as they don't like the moderately conservative social policies of the present Conservative Party, are they willing to watch the NDP drag all those wonderful social programs that Liberals love down the toilet with disastrous corporate tax raises and Bob Rae-esque spending promises, neither of which can be afforded as we recover from the worst recession since the Great Depression?
It really is far past time they start to ask whether a vote for the Liberal party is in fact a vote for Jack Layton. The extreme left elements of the Liberal party are already leaving the deflating big red tent in droves to bolster the wind in Jack Layton's sails. All those blue Liberals out there really need to look in the mirror and ask whether they can afford sticking around to see an NDP led coalition.
The blue Liberals can't kid themselves any longer. While Ignatieff has been deceptive on this front, Jack Layton has made no secret of his goal of a coalition since day one of the campaign. If the polls turn true to the NDP, the economy of Canada and everything connected to it -- and if you can't do the math that means literally everything -- is in jeopardy.
So, blue Liberals... what say you?
Are you going to go down with the sinking ship?
Or are you going to be the bigger man/woman and responsibly vote for a party that will keep the NDP's hands off the economy and out of our pockets?
You know the Liberal party is not going to pull out of this nosedive. Are you really willing to let the country go down with your party?
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Blue Dog Liberals need to wakeup and smell the skunk in the forest. Jack will be your guy - and he will kick you where it hurts - no dissenting opinions tolerated in that party. cheers
I value conservative ideals of fiscal responsibility and a strong economy, but Harper's conservatives do not reflect these values.
Their contempt for democracy and undisciplined spending practices have shown simply a subservience to a corporate elite and an obsession with power. These are not the values that I hold as a conservative.
I will be voting in protest, against the CPC this election.
Let's see...
Contempt for democracy? If you are planning on voting for the Liberals, I'll remind you this is a party that frequently sited Parliamentary privilege for spending (what the Conservatives were held in contempt for) and prorogued Parliament and called elections whenever they felt.
Undisciplined spending? Perhaps you should do some homework so that you can see that the majority of this spending was to placate Opposition parties. If you're against spending, you better be voting for anything but the Liberals, NDP, Bloc or Greens because you'll just get more.
So, I'm assuming you're either voting for an independent candidate or for a fringe party. Otherwise, your protest vote will be a vote for the very things you think you are protesting against.
@Surecure -- I take a slightly longer term view than you do.
If the CPC wants my vote they need to reign in spending, if they see a collapse of support, they need to rethink their policies.
And the trend of increased government secrecy, lack of access and accountability, witholding information from parliament, prorogation, and spending scandal after spending scandal, our fragile democracy cannot handle this.
Its a slippery slope. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. I cannot with a good conscience vote CPC.
I'm sorry, you're taking a longer term view? Than what?
The Liberals are not going to win and if there is a coalition you're going to have the NDP in power being held up by the Bloc -- who is lead by a former Worker's Communist Party of Canada member and Maoist philosopher -- and the Liberals who will have no voting power at all.
If you are willing to have a government devoted to taxing the hell out of everything and spending as much as possible... go ahead.
You're not thinking long term. You're not even thinking short term.
As I said, unless you're voting for a fringe party or spoiling your ballet, you're only fooling yourself that you're against contempt for democracy and unbridled spending. Because the parties most likely to come out on top could not be further from those ideals.
But, as I said about the blue Liberals, some people can fool themselves. The question is how far they can fool themselves.
@Surecure, I'm not sure you have the facts straight. Maoism is a completely different philosophy than even 'communism', and both are significantly different than the NDP.
At any rate, why am I fooling myself again? I'm voting against contempt for democracy by voting against the CPC. I would normally vote for them, on this election day, I will not.
It is a democracy, I am voting for democracy by voting AGAINST a government that has been antidemocratic.
I am a fiscal conservative, I am voting for fiscal conservatism by voting AGAINST the government that has led to the biggest deficit in Canadian history.
The CPC will need to consider its base and revise its policies if they want my vote in the past.
I'm sorry if people that vote differently than you do for their own reasons are so wrongheaded. Thankfully, in a democracy, my opinion counts for something.
At least now I know how informed a person I've been debating here. Maoism is a purist form of communism. Five seconds on Google would have clarified that point for you. So, epic fail on that debate point.
As for being significantly different than the NDP, of course they're different. But only in terms of totalitarianism. In terms of government control of industry and insane social spending practices, they're damn close.
I myself am not impressed by how out of control spending has gone. Difference between us is that knowing how every spending point the Conservatives capitulated to the Opposition had them saying "not enough", I'm at least informed enough to know that any of the other major parties would be significantly worse on that front.
As I've said -- and you've let stand -- the spending practices of the Conservatives have been largely at the behest of the Opposition parties. And while not perfect, the Conservatives have been better than all previous governments in regards to accountability and respect for democracy. So, your concern for spending and democracy is laughable unless you're voting for a fringe party.
But since you're still here trying to justify why you aren't voting for the CPC, it stands to reason that you're not voting for a fringe party since that would have ended this debate long ago.
I find it despicable that because Stephen Harper (in a minority situation where he had to work with other parties) failed to give some supporters what they want, these supporters are going to "protest" by voting other than Conservative.
while that is your right, just what do you suppose you will have acheived in your goal towards "getting what you want" when the left troika or worse - Jack Layton - is sitting in the chair.
Just how will that work out for you.
And do you think for one minute that they are going to give up power any time soon no matter how many times the Conservatives (who actually have more seats than anyone) vote none confidence.
You certainly have the right to cast your vote as you want - just realize there are consequences to your actions and your "protest" might get you much, much more than you bargined for.
I would be interested to see what SH does with a majority before I decide to "protest" his not giving me what i want!!!
Bluecon4life except when it matters.
Sure, that's real believable.
You sure smell like a Marxist-Laytonist Coalitionist to me.
You’re like soooooo not tricky.
The possibility of centrist or right-leaning Liberals immigrating to the CPC is an interesting one that I hadn't considered until today. It certainly seems likely if the NDP becomes the official opposition, and could help Harper form a majority.
In the short term it would be devastating to the LPC. In the long term it might be good, for it would force them to rebuild from the grassroots up, something they've needed for a while.
more like: Bluecon_NOT_4life.
8 years ago the newly merging conservatives were doomed to another generation in the wilderness under PMPM.
today we have a real chance to elect a conservative majority.
whining about parliamentary politics and minority spending during an unprecedented world wide economic upheaval [from which we fared better than any other developed nation] is asinine.
or the nonsense of a lefty troll...
The Blue Liberals may salvage their self respect by caucusing independently of the LPC rather than merging with the CPC, denying enough seats for a coalition to form but keeping the CPC on a short leash as well.
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