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Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Dispelling the Myth of the 60% Against Harper

We've heard it before. It's nothing new. Supporters of the NDP and the also-ran parties are once again claiming that, while the Conservatives achieved a majority, a clear majority of 60 percent of Canadians voted against the Conservatives.

Mindless, uneducated nonsense.

The only way to claim that the majority were voting against the Conservatives is if there was a virtual guarantee that either the Conservatives, a) could not have polled higher than they did on election day, or b) could in no way have hit 50 percent of the vote.

Running up to the election, polls had the Conservatives as high as 43 percent or as low as 36 percent with the Conservatives most of the time hovering in the 39 percent region.

However, Compass appears to be one of the few companies that asked the all-important question that the "Anything But Conservative" equation absolutely depends upon: voter's second intentions.

And that is a telling story indeed.

According to the real world numbers, the Conservatives were the second choice for 11 percent of the population. So, the idea that the majority of voters were voting against the Harper Conservatives has no basis in reality.

In fact, if the Conservatives kept their steady base of 39 percent and everybody who would have voted for the Conservatives with their second choice in fact did vote for their second choice, the Conservatives would have unquestionably cracked the majority marker.

But I'm not arguing against reality the way that the whining, sore-losers are. The reality is that 39 percent of the population voted for the Conservatives. And knowing that the Conservatives were the second choice of enough voters to put them into absolute majority territory, suggesting that 60 percent of Canadians voted against the Conservatives only holds true if you also say that:

  1. 69% of voters voted against the NDP
  2. 81% of voters voted against the Liberals
  3. 94% of voters voted against the Bloc
  4. 96% of voters voted against the Green Party

Now, can we put this sore-loser nonsense to bed once and for all?


** UPDATE **

And one other point I wanted to mention. The idea of an "Anything But Conservative" majority has one other major detractor. We already know how much support Canadians had in the past with an "Anything But Conservative" situation. And only 4 out of 10 Canadians supported it.

Anything? Sorry, but it looks like that 60 percent number is actually the opposite: 60 percent of Canadians are against "ANYTHING But Conservative".


** SECOND UPDATE **

In the comments, Oxygentax linked his list of significant decisions/programs made by parties who obtained a majority of the house without achieving a majority of the votes. Considering the snail's pace of significant government decisions/programs one sees in minority governments (such as the past 5 years) I imagine that you could easily count a good two-thirds of that list as gone. (h/t to Oxygentax)

And on a related note, imagine how exaggerated that kind of problem would be in a multi-party proportional representation system. Actually, you don't even have to imagine...

7 comments:

Mike said...
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Mike said...

Technically the reality is that 39% of the 60% of the population who bothered to vote voted for the Conservatives. But let's not quibble too much - they still got 39% of the vote.

Telling it like it is said...

Also add the 39% of people that didn`t vote. If you don`t vote, you more or less support the results of the people that did.

Surecure said...

My point exactly, Mike. We can argue this or that until the Rapture. The only numbers we have on hand are those that gave us the distribution in Parliament that we now have.

There's no point in being a sore loser about it all and nickel-and-diming every argument to replace reality with one's own wishful thinking. Especially when the numbers don't support the argument.

oxygentax said...

Just imagine what Canada would look like if no government was considered legitimate without 50% of the vote:

http://www.oxygentax.com/2011/05/if-majority-is-illegitimate-at-less.html

Robert W. said...

A few years ago I compiled statistics about all of Canada's federal elections. I've now updated it with our most recent one. You can download it here: http://mwtech.com/downloads/public/1867-2008_Canadian_Federal_Elections.xls

I realize that facts seem to matter little to those overwhelmed with hatred toward our PM but still, they provide great evidence of the shallowness of this "60% Against Harper" canard.

JR said...

And, discounting the Quebec aberration, the Tories got 47% of the popular vote in the ROC (where 76% of Canadians live).

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